Dogfish
11-04-2010, 12:58 PM
This is from an original post I made at TVP. (http://www.toyotavanpeople.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6520)
Windshield Washer Nozzles (http://www.toyotavanpeople.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6520#p48784)
by Dogfish (http://www.toyotavanpeople.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=358) » Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:26 pm
My latest project, an '86 LE, had electrical tape over the holes where the windshield washer nozzles should have been. It has next to no rust and the most options of any TV I've owned (it's number 6), so I didn't mind so much.
ToyoDIY.com shows the RH pisser at $22.51 and the LH as N/A. I didn't want to try to track them down and pay about $40 for them so I decided that I would pull the nozzles from my parts van. They are in like new condition anyway.
I searched the forums and found an old post:
A forum member wrote:
”Yes, I think the dash has to come out, unless you have really skinny arms. They are held on with a little clip on the inside.”
It didn't sound so bad. I wanted to swap dash tops anyway... and little clips didn't sound very intimidating.
I spent most of the day just pulling them from my parts car.
Dashboard top and speedometer cluster was only the beginning. All the upper ducts had to come out. The heater controls and spider. All the switches and lower dash. There was a bracket that was in the way of working comfortably (is that possible on a TV..?) on the passenger side but it was only 2 bolts... painless.
The passenger side wasn't that difficult. The bases of the nozzles are behind a bend in the sheet metal, the only way I could see the base and the clip was with a mirror and flashlight. I disconnected the tubing and the clip pulled off easily with channel locks. The clip reminded me of an old CB mike mount.
The driver’s side is behind the wiper linkage. I had to remove the 4 bolts for the wiper motor. To get to the lower 2 bolts for the motor, I had to remove the lower duct. Next, I popped the ball joint and removed the wiper motor. I then popped the other ball joint on the linkage and it dropped out of the way.
Perhaps it could be done with removing less... I'll find out when I install them in the other van. Experience curve and all that...
It's certainly more involved than pulling the dash and finding the two clips (skinny arms won't get through ducts or the wiper motor). At least I only have to put it all back together in one van. I'll try to get some pics if I remember. No pics today... I didn't expect it to be this involved, but I wouldn't want anyone else doing it either. Too many things that are easily broken or screwed up and then it just gets slapped back together, and you end up paying through the nose for leaky ducts and new rattles.
Re: Windshield Washer Nozzles (http://www.toyotavanpeople.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6520#p48842)
by Dogfish (http://www.toyotavanpeople.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=358) » Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:34 am
The nozzles went in relatively painlessly.
At first I thought mine may have been removed for painting and then never reinstalled because it was a PITA. Possible, I guess, but mine were definitely broken off from the outside. The broken parts were still stuck in the hoses, and I found one of the clips.
I didn't remove the lower duct this time (although I may remove it today for cleaning). I got the two lower wiper motor bolts out without removing the lower duct. The lower drivers
side bolt has 2 ground wires with ring terminals. These looked like a PITA to get back on so I left them on the bolt and left my ratchet with extensions there propped on the floor and holding the bolt and wires.
I sprayed the nozzles and rubber grommets with CRC Heavy Silicon the night before. I also cleaned the clips and gave them a shot of primer.
There is a white nylon "Y" connector on the hoses. Disconnect the hose that runs to the nozzle from the "Y" and put it on the nozzle first, then feed the hose through the hole from the outside and seat the nozzle in the hole. Install the clips and then reconnect the hose to the "Y".
When removing the hoses from the "Y", I sprayed the outside of the hose with silicon, then I used a small pick to lift the hose a little at the "Y", I sprayed more silicon under the hose moved the pick a little and it came right off.
When installing the clips, it may help to have someone hold the nozzles from the outside. Gravity tends to pull them down a little and they move when you move the clips. I ended up with a strip of electrical tape run vertically from under the nozzle a few inches to a few inches up the windshield.
It was a good opportunity to clean the ducts. Good design, they separate into two halves for easy cleaning. I sprayed them inside and out with silicon. Also the top of the large duct is the defroster vents. This part shows and is next to impossible to clean from up top. If you clean nothing else you may consider cleaning this.
I also cleaned and paste waxed the "panel, subassy, instrument, upper" (http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/p_U_198702_TOYOTA_VAN_YR32LV-PRBEA_5551.html?hl=55302A). I also painted the screw and bolt heads before reinstalling it.
There is more that I want to do now that I have the dash area opened up. I'm going to compare all the parts to my parts van and swap as necessary. I'll do a thorough cleaning of everything before installation and Armor-All the things that show.
I also need to make an enclosure for the derived center channel amp and woofer. I bought a Pyle PLG54 5" Woofer for it. It was supposed to mount in 2.2" but needs more like 3.5". It sounds good though, so I'll keep it.
All in all, the removal and installation of the nozzles wasn't bad. It's a good opportunity to fix anything under dash that needs it and to clean all the neglected and hard to reach areas.
Windshield Washer Nozzles (http://www.toyotavanpeople.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6520#p48784)
by Dogfish (http://www.toyotavanpeople.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=358) » Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:26 pm
My latest project, an '86 LE, had electrical tape over the holes where the windshield washer nozzles should have been. It has next to no rust and the most options of any TV I've owned (it's number 6), so I didn't mind so much.
ToyoDIY.com shows the RH pisser at $22.51 and the LH as N/A. I didn't want to try to track them down and pay about $40 for them so I decided that I would pull the nozzles from my parts van. They are in like new condition anyway.
I searched the forums and found an old post:
A forum member wrote:
”Yes, I think the dash has to come out, unless you have really skinny arms. They are held on with a little clip on the inside.”
It didn't sound so bad. I wanted to swap dash tops anyway... and little clips didn't sound very intimidating.
I spent most of the day just pulling them from my parts car.
Dashboard top and speedometer cluster was only the beginning. All the upper ducts had to come out. The heater controls and spider. All the switches and lower dash. There was a bracket that was in the way of working comfortably (is that possible on a TV..?) on the passenger side but it was only 2 bolts... painless.
The passenger side wasn't that difficult. The bases of the nozzles are behind a bend in the sheet metal, the only way I could see the base and the clip was with a mirror and flashlight. I disconnected the tubing and the clip pulled off easily with channel locks. The clip reminded me of an old CB mike mount.
The driver’s side is behind the wiper linkage. I had to remove the 4 bolts for the wiper motor. To get to the lower 2 bolts for the motor, I had to remove the lower duct. Next, I popped the ball joint and removed the wiper motor. I then popped the other ball joint on the linkage and it dropped out of the way.
Perhaps it could be done with removing less... I'll find out when I install them in the other van. Experience curve and all that...
It's certainly more involved than pulling the dash and finding the two clips (skinny arms won't get through ducts or the wiper motor). At least I only have to put it all back together in one van. I'll try to get some pics if I remember. No pics today... I didn't expect it to be this involved, but I wouldn't want anyone else doing it either. Too many things that are easily broken or screwed up and then it just gets slapped back together, and you end up paying through the nose for leaky ducts and new rattles.
Re: Windshield Washer Nozzles (http://www.toyotavanpeople.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6520#p48842)
by Dogfish (http://www.toyotavanpeople.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=358) » Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:34 am
The nozzles went in relatively painlessly.
At first I thought mine may have been removed for painting and then never reinstalled because it was a PITA. Possible, I guess, but mine were definitely broken off from the outside. The broken parts were still stuck in the hoses, and I found one of the clips.
I didn't remove the lower duct this time (although I may remove it today for cleaning). I got the two lower wiper motor bolts out without removing the lower duct. The lower drivers
side bolt has 2 ground wires with ring terminals. These looked like a PITA to get back on so I left them on the bolt and left my ratchet with extensions there propped on the floor and holding the bolt and wires.
I sprayed the nozzles and rubber grommets with CRC Heavy Silicon the night before. I also cleaned the clips and gave them a shot of primer.
There is a white nylon "Y" connector on the hoses. Disconnect the hose that runs to the nozzle from the "Y" and put it on the nozzle first, then feed the hose through the hole from the outside and seat the nozzle in the hole. Install the clips and then reconnect the hose to the "Y".
When removing the hoses from the "Y", I sprayed the outside of the hose with silicon, then I used a small pick to lift the hose a little at the "Y", I sprayed more silicon under the hose moved the pick a little and it came right off.
When installing the clips, it may help to have someone hold the nozzles from the outside. Gravity tends to pull them down a little and they move when you move the clips. I ended up with a strip of electrical tape run vertically from under the nozzle a few inches to a few inches up the windshield.
It was a good opportunity to clean the ducts. Good design, they separate into two halves for easy cleaning. I sprayed them inside and out with silicon. Also the top of the large duct is the defroster vents. This part shows and is next to impossible to clean from up top. If you clean nothing else you may consider cleaning this.
I also cleaned and paste waxed the "panel, subassy, instrument, upper" (http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/p_U_198702_TOYOTA_VAN_YR32LV-PRBEA_5551.html?hl=55302A). I also painted the screw and bolt heads before reinstalling it.
There is more that I want to do now that I have the dash area opened up. I'm going to compare all the parts to my parts van and swap as necessary. I'll do a thorough cleaning of everything before installation and Armor-All the things that show.
I also need to make an enclosure for the derived center channel amp and woofer. I bought a Pyle PLG54 5" Woofer for it. It was supposed to mount in 2.2" but needs more like 3.5". It sounds good though, so I'll keep it.
All in all, the removal and installation of the nozzles wasn't bad. It's a good opportunity to fix anything under dash that needs it and to clean all the neglected and hard to reach areas.