NEW Stainless steel brake lines for OleGG, extended length too for the lift!

[gshadow32]

These just came in the mail. Will most likely be the best $$ i spent like it was when i did my 185k 2003 v8 4runner!


These were custom ordered to be 2" longer than stock for the front to accommodate for the longer travel needed from the lift!


these were for all 7 lines that are in a previa.


Perfect time to do a complete brake flush too.
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[mountainhick]

Once again, great idea, but care to share where you got the parts?

Funny, most people would not find brake lines beautiful, but those really are!

[gshadow32]

Once again, great idea, but care to share where you got the parts?

Funny, most people would not find brake lines beautiful, but those really are!

Ok, since you shared your lift idea, i will only share with you my brake mod.

Only you, no one else read past here since this info is not for you LOL

WARNING: you do this on your own, blame yourself if it failed whatever. you dont know what im doing them you should do it.

PRO TIP: I learned this from another pro brake guy from the rust belt in the north east US. Kirk taught me to use a fire and ice method as he called it. heat the joint where the hard line and rubber line meet. its likely your van could seem to be rusted tight. i assure you its not likely. since i used kirks tip, i have NEVER broken a brake like since. that was 4 cars ago!! explained to me the stuff i learned in highschool science actually can be applied here, i slept thru most of it LOL so it was a little fuzzy until he rimed me that if we heat the junction where the metal line meets the rubber one then using a squirt bottle with a stream of ice water quickly cool down the rubber male end it will shrink just enough for you to loosen the union. look at my photos theres plenty of rust, plenty of stuff to fall on your face too under the van. so wear some protective glasses!
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YOU NEED A QUALITY SET OF FLARE WRENCHES. mine are snap on, not husky brand from home depot or the pittsburgh junk from harbor freight. strip a fitting and you will see why these EXPENSIVE flare wrenches are worth every penny!
you need a 10mm, 14, 17 and 18 mm if i remember correctly, heck just borrow a whole set!
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lines installed
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longer front
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old front next to new front
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rear installed
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the rear center one installed. this would have been a huge headache to replace if it stripped or broke off. GO BUY A $2 squirt bottle and a $20 starter propane torch!
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Now for the review:
Install was straight foward. was pretty excited that i had this option quite frankly. in the picture with my two snap on wrenches. the upper one has a metal washer than should be removed so you can use the factory retaining clips. i didnt know this and installed it with out the clips. i went back and snipped them off and put the clips in. only found this out after i installed them and after a quick conversation with raymond on facebook messenger.

For less than the cost of dinner and a movie for two, you can have a much better pedal feel. no more squishy pedal, now everyone riding with you can do the synchronized head bob to the beat of your music when you hit the brakes hard. Just look in the mirror when you do it, its quite funny.

They shipped to me in 2 day USPS priority.
facebook for raymond
https://www.facebook.com/messages/raymond.chan.35380399

contact info
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[gshadow32]

I guess no one cares for better stopping power besides me?

Well, i just got some more brake parts in on friday and installed them this saturday.

EBC brake pads. OMG amazing feeling now.

My setup is basic:
-stainless steel lines of course, all 7
-stock rotors and stock calipers fronts and rear.
-fresh castrol brake fluid all the way around.
-EBC Ultimax Pads, part # UD500

This is the best $120 i have spent so far on!
Lines $85
pads $35

Stopping power? Priceless. I personally didnt see the need for new rotors, i have had good experience with EBC on other applications. So i didnt expect this one to be any problem!

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[pdgizwiz]

I have learned by white-knuckled experience that the ability to stop is more important than the ability to go.
On the subject of tools and brake lines, I like to let the fittings soak in penetrant for at least a week before I have a go at them. And my experience with flare nut wrenches has been spotty. I've not tried a Snap-on, so maybe that's the issue, but I am lucky to own an obscure tool invented, manufactured, and marketed (unsuccessfully) by a fellow named Ted Neff many decades ago:
3134
This thing is perfect for brake lines. I don't know how long I've had it in my collection, or where I got it. I may have inherited it from my dad or maybe it caught my eye at a rummage sale. And it sat in my box for a long time before I found that brake lines are what it is ideally suited for.

[timsrv]

That's awesome! I love old tools like that. That Jack-Lock is in excellent condition. I've never seen one like that before. I had some original Snap on wrenches & misc tools passed down to me from my dad & grandpa. I kept them in my tool box at work. I made the mistake of showing them off to a group of co-workers once and they disappeared a week later.........all of them. All my modern tools were left alone. Probably a good thing I never found out who. :pissed:

BTW, I've had cheap tubing wrenches and they were worthless. I swear by my Snap-on tubing wrenches. The extra beef in the right spots makes all the difference in the world. Tim

[gshadow32]

Bumping up this old thread for two reasons.

First: It has been only 10000 miles since these were installed. those 10,000 miles were put on from Nov 2015 - April of 2016, 5 months.
Since April 2016 to today March of 2017, i have put 500 miles on her. She sat in the driveway while i put 30,000 miles on my Lexus Ct200H.

Second: I have been driving her the last few days and the center line above the axle sprung a leak.
It leaked becuase i had one of my air lines for my train horns rubbing against it and it sat there for the last 1.5 years.

Well I messaged the vendor listed in first post that it leaked. Didnt tell him why since i expected to pay for it.
He asked me the length of the line since i had them customized for the lift.
Gave him the specs and my mailing address this morning and ten minutes ago i get a USPS tracking number.
Totally expecting to pay, i asked him for his paypal info and i'll send payment now.

I got the Dont worry about it, i got you.
Thats out standing service for you. He didnt have to do that, he uld have asked me for money. I Asked him to pay for my product.
He refused, now there is hope for humanity.

I am again fully endorsing him!

I'll go back into hibernation now.

[timsrv]

I got some Earl's stainless braided brake lines for my 69 Camaro back in the 80's. I rarely drove that car, yet after a year or so one of them sprung a leak. I had saved my old rubber lines so I just put those back on. At that point my stock rubber lines were about 15 years old and they were still holding up when I sold that car in the mid 90's. I'm sure there's different quality products out there, but somebody told me the "high performance" braided lines were meant for racers (short term use). They help make the pedal stiffer as they don't expand as much under pressure, but they're not meant for long term daily driving. I'm not sure how true that is, but that experience (and now yours) seems to indicate it might be. Tim

[gshadow32]

I got some Earl's stainless braided brake lines for my 69 Camaro back in the 80's. I rarely drove that car, yet after a year or so one of them sprung a leak. I had saved my old rubber lines so I just put those back on. At that point my stock rubber lines were about 15 years old and they were still holding up when I sold that car in the mid 90's. I'm sure there's different quality products out there, but somebody told me the "high performance" braided lines were meant for racers (short term use). They help make the pedal stiffer as they don't expand as much under pressure, but they're not meant for long term daily driving. I'm not sure how true that is, but that experience (and now yours) seems to indicate it might be. Tim

If that is what you got from my post then I need to reiterate absolutely 1000% no. The line broke because of my own negligence. I had it binding on a air line coming from my train horns that are mounted under the van.

I sold performance parts for 15 years and never had a failure with stainless steel lines. I have them on all my vehicles in my driveway. My convertible has had the same set on the last 10 years, my truck has had the same set on for the last 4 and that thing goes thru loads of abuse.

It broke because of me. Nothing else. Just to be clear.

[timsrv]

Well, they certainly look nice. Seems like braided steel should win the battle of chaffing on plastic, but if kinked or twisted during installation I can see that definitely being an issue. For all I know I got the only one of these to ever fail, but it certainly left a bad taste. My one experience (albeit another brand), was not that great. Glad to hear your experience has been better. Tim

[Ace MM]

The wrenches save your nuts, but not you knuckles.

I'm a big fan of SS braided lines!
You should of called Earls. I got similar service from them when I got a bad threaded end for the clutch. That set was on my motorcycle (115,000 mi) for almost the whole time.

There is a guy in Whittier California that would be happy to make a set or 3.
I have his sets on both my Datsuns.