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User1
08-27-2012, 02:27 PM
Hello all,

Well I pretty much exhausted my options for what I'm looking for in a 14" tire for my 4x4 van. I pretty much wanted a good all around tire that would be rated for all season. The Michelin X I thought was my "go to" tire. It was rated at a 80,000 mile warranty and was an all season tire. The best thing was that it had the size, 205-75-R14 I was looking for! After being lead around for who knows how long by the tire guys at CostCo, it ends up now they are going to discontinue the tire. I really don't want to spend way over $500 for a set of four tires with really no warranty on them. Plus have to find someone to put them on!

So I'm wanting to see what's available by using 15" wheels. My goal on the using this size is to ultimately get the same diameter tires as the 14" above. Tires I want to use is a Michelin, BFGoodrich or Bridgestone tires on the 15" wheels. Anyone know what wheels I should be looking for that would work? I guess I'm also wondering what size tire I should look into getting. :dizzy:

Any help in this would be greatly appreciated.

(if this should go under "4x4 vans" sections, feel free to move this)

Burntboot
08-27-2012, 04:28 PM
There are several threads on 15in rims but sidekick/tracker rims are the only real option, 205/70r15 tires fit with marginal trimming and the speedo is accurate.
I am running Pirelli's and very happy with them.

Alternatively you may want to check out General Grabber AT 27x8.5x14 if you want to stay with the stock rims.
BB

llamavan
08-27-2012, 06:56 PM
Thread moved because it doesn't apply to 2WD vans (that's the acid test — if a 2WD vanner can use the info, put it in "Vans" so it can be found by 2WD-ers). I don't mind moving stuff if people aren't certain. :)

I just ran into the same problem with Costco and Michelin. Ended up with a set of 205/75R14 (stock size) Toyo Eclipse tires from Les Schwab. Allegedly 70K (we'll see, of course). Tread is similar to the Michelins.

Gwen

RawbSpear
08-30-2012, 01:45 PM
I have the tracker wheel. love them. I put on some Good Year Assurance tires.
746

NEC
09-09-2012, 12:18 AM
I had a set of Suzuki Samurai wheels (15x5.5 +10mm offset) and they fit good with up to 215 width tires.

Dio
10-16-2012, 01:34 PM
I have the same rims as Rawb here. I love them. I put beefier tires on them than Rawb and ended up having to trim a moderate amount to minimize tire rub.

I had my van posted at the other place but no photos here yet.

Harbilly
11-26-2012, 02:52 PM
We use geo tracker rims. Three years on the set so far and the heavier van hasn't broken the tracker (lighter vehicle) rims yet.

kenneth
11-05-2016, 03:04 PM
I am looking for advice upgrading to 15" rims for my 87 4WD. I have done some searching and my understanding is that I will need rims ... preferably alloy ... with 5.5 inch center hole pattern ... are there other considerations? Also found these and assuming they will do the job? - http://www.jcwhitney.com/pro-comp-xtreme-alloy-series-69-wheels/p3066318.jcwx?filterid=d2119y1988g437j1

Any help greatly appreciated!

Ken

djshimon
11-05-2016, 06:19 PM
Search our site, lots of info on this topic.

Santa Cruzer
11-05-2016, 06:55 PM
Just got mine all sorted out today as a matter of fact.
205/75/15's on Sammy spokers
minimal trimming up front, 2 inch lift, tortion bar tweak in front, and mr gasket spacers in the back
next project is aerostar springs in the back, to get rid of those rubber spacers, keep spitting out :wall:

4651

The tires are General Grabbers Amazon.com has em for $99.99 each free shipping

kenneth
11-06-2016, 11:34 AM
Looks fantastic! I am looking to do NO trimming on the body though .... I have 15"rims on the beast now with no trimming ... just looking to change the style of the rim..... I assume there was no trimming on the van because of he profile of the tires that are on there now? Which I am also going to be replacing. Thoughts?

kenneth
11-06-2016, 11:38 AM
Oh and meant to ask ... are those alloy are steal rims? I've been told better to run the alloy if you can because of the reduced weight. Thanks!



Looks fantastic! I am looking to do NO trimming on the body though .... I have 15"rims on the beast now with no trimming ... just looking to change the style of the rim..... I assume there was no trimming on the van because of he profile of the tires that are on there now? Which I am also going to be replacing. Thoughts?

Santa Cruzer
11-06-2016, 11:53 AM
I suppose you could "trim nothing" with 70 series profile tires, I went with 75's a tad bit taller.
What 15 inch wheels do you have now? how come you want to replace them?
Mine are steel Samurai wheels, no alloy here. I've heard they can crack with heavy service, but
I don't plan on running the Rubicon any time soon.

kenneth
11-06-2016, 01:23 PM
I have attached a photo of the rims I have now .... just don't love the way they look .... I've just heard better than steel for stopping and not wearing the front end out because of the weight difference. It would be interesting to know what the actual weight difference is ... and whether or not it's that big of a difference.

4653

Santa Cruzer
11-06-2016, 01:51 PM
I agree lighter weight means less rotational weight means easier to stop, easier on the suspension and wheel bearings.
have you considered powder coating them to change the look a bit?
I think they look cool, are you looking for a more rugged look or something?
Those wheels on Summit's website won't work wrong offset, and they'll hit your slider door.
theres not much room with Samurai's and 205's
4654

kenneth
11-07-2016, 10:11 AM
You know powered coating them is a fantastic idea! I was hoping for something less chrome .... so I may just give that a shot ... thanks for the idea!

Santa Cruzer
11-07-2016, 10:34 AM
I've seen your style powder coated black, looks cool, I went with hammer tone silver for mine, just a bit different, and goes well with my tundra blue exterior. I look forward to seeing yours when finished! post some picks!:thmbup:

boogieman
05-18-2017, 10:53 AM
5367

has anyone used these wheels from a sidekick? were all the offsets/etc. the same for the sidekick tracker wheels?

spacecruisers
05-18-2017, 11:15 AM
i have sidekick wheels on mine currently. they're the 91-98 model year 10 slot wheels. the ones you pictured should be the same except for looks.

5368

donne13
07-10-2017, 02:49 PM
Kenneth, hey just wondering what vehicle application you used to find those rims, also do you know the ideal back-spacing relative to stock wheel.

Santa Cruzer
07-11-2017, 02:56 PM
Mine are Suzuki Samurai steel, The alloy ones are Suzuki Versa (not sure the spelling)
The difference in "off set" in outward 1 inch. So consequently you get a 2 inch wider track width, that doesn't suck.
That's what I know for now.

toyofan
07-31-2017, 10:00 AM
I need to buy one for 1997 Toyota Previa LE. Where can I order online? I have been really busy with work and have no time to go to an auto shop.

LightBlueToy
07-31-2017, 12:26 PM
I need to buy one for 1997 Toyota Previa LE. Where can I order online? I have been really busy with work and have no time to go to an auto shop.

If nothing else, you could try stock wheels: http://www.stockwheels.com/toyota-Wheels-Rims#/specFilters=3!#-!7425!-#!10!#-!5729

Pchristian87
09-30-2017, 09:12 PM
Hey all,

Just got my van and looking to also upgrade to 15". I'm really digging the Samurai wheels and am looking for a set currently. These come stock 5.5 width? Also anyone know the offset off the top of there head? I'm seeing some aftermarket samurai look-a-like wheels and am curious if those are a viable option.

Thanks

spacecruisers
09-30-2017, 09:50 PM
Hey all,

Just got my van and looking to also upgrade to 15". I'm really digging the Samurai wheels and am looking for a set currently. These come stock 5.5 width? Also anyone know the offset off the top of there head? I'm seeing some aftermarket samurai look-a-like wheels and am curious if those are a viable option.

Thanks


don't know about Samurai wheels but mine has wheels from a Suzuki sidekick/geo tracker and they fit and look great.

Carbonized
10-01-2017, 10:21 AM
Sammys offset: +10. OEM is +14. Your wheels will stick OUT by 4mm more = safe = way clear of sliding door. Assuming 205 /70 tires: taller tires = more side wall bulge =all bets are off :wnk:

Pchristian87
10-05-2017, 04:51 PM
Carbonized sent this to me after I asked for some clarification. Super helpful.

http://www.toyotavantech.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Pchristian87
Hey bud,
Was reading your post on the 'Upgrading to 15" rims' thread and wanted to clarify some things. You said the stock Van wheels are +14 offset. If they stick OUT 4mm more does that mean that's better for sliding door clearance? I thought the less they stuck out would mean more clearance. I don't know much about offset so please, school a newbie. haha



"Offset" is the distance between the imaginary center line of the rim and the mounting surface of the hub. Positive is when that surface is outboard (street side) of the center line (of the rim). Negative is when that hub surface moves to the inboard side (inside of van) of the rim's center line. 0 offset is when rim's center line and hub mount surface are matching. It get very confusing when you get " less positive offset or more negative offset :cnfsd: In a comparison between Van OEM (+14) and Sammys (+10) you are staying on the positive side of the centerline but losing 4mm of distance between the rim center line and the hub surface therefore, physically, the outer part of the rim has moved outboard by 4 mm in relation to its hub. Some times also expressed as "the dish is deeper" :wnk:
It get really, really messed up when you also change the rim width, as you can make the dish deeper without changing offset :dizzy::LOL2:. Or as is the case on my LE where I went from the 5.5 wide +25 offset OEM to the 7 wide +8 offset Supra witch moved the rim 1.37 inch out, with my 205-70x14 boots on, the sliding door clears by maybe 2 mm.:dance1:

In our case it doesn't improve clearance, it reduces it, but it si safely within what the sliding door allows, assuming reasonable tires.
Hope that helps
Feel free to copy to the thread, as it could help others too :)

oli larsen
12-20-2017, 10:28 AM
I did some in depth measuring on my 4x4's front end if this helps. if you follow the basic steps you can figure out what wheels you can put on it. its a bit of a mind roflroflroflrofl but once you ave your head around it things will make sense.
just keep in mind as mentioned up above that especially on 4x4 tyres there is a lot of sidewall bulge! also clearance should be higher than you think as when the car is bumping about under compression especially on lock it needs more of a gap than you'd think!
anyway here are my measurements.

VARIOUS OPTIONS

100mm from hub face to arch inside front clearance.
3.93 inches.
7 inch wheel is ok.
225 tyre 8.58 inches wide. Would equal
Half the tyre width is 112.5mm 4.43 inches


100mm clearance so 12mm overlap.
So a minimum of et12 needed for 225 tyres.




Et7 on 215 tyre
Wheel width 177.8mm
Half =88.9mm
With et7 wheel 81.9mm sticking out towards arch.
-18.1mm clearance.


Et 30 wheels on 215 tyre
88.9mm half wheel
-30mm offset
=58.9mm sticking out
107.5mm half tyre width
77.5mm of tyre sticking out towards arch. 100mm to arch clearance
-22.7mm total clearance.


Et0 on a 215 tyre
107.5mm half tyre width.
Arch gap 100mm
+7.5mm sticking out.

these are some of the offsets I found available on aftermarket wheels in our stud patterns and centre bores.
the pic is of mine on some et7 by 7'x15 on 215x75x15. this took quite a bit of modding. the rear door hits the wheel but still can be forced open. without going to a lower offset (less than et7) the door won't open.
most aftermarket wheels I've found push the wheel further out. this causes more and more problems especially if you go for a wider tyre.

95-le/sc-all-trac-rip
12-23-2018, 03:48 AM
Is there a 15" tire that doesn't require modifications for the 4wd Toyota Van?

Carbonized
12-23-2018, 11:56 AM
As I understand it, on 15" there are few options, it depends on how much you are willing to "lift"..... Come to think of it , isn't lifting already "modding" :?:
You could start there but there is a lot more if you search :) https://www.toyotavantech.com/forum/showthread.php?318-Tires-tires-tires!

95-le/sc-all-trac-rip
12-23-2018, 01:48 PM
Are there any options for stock?

Carbonized
12-23-2018, 09:46 PM
95-le,
After searching you've got to actually read. :yes: Hint hint: go back to page one, post#2 of this very thread :wnk:

95-le/sc-all-trac-rip
12-23-2018, 09:54 PM
I guess that you didn't read my question, but thanks anyway.

Burntboot
12-24-2018, 12:44 PM
He did, actually, and both questions are answered at post #2

And if you want to keep the 14's and not run the grabber style boot, there is another thread on the Korean versions.
Going to an "R" tire (passenger rated) leaves one with only low grade, soft sidewall tires.
All the quality 14in tires are gone, even 15's are getting hard to find these days.

95-le/sc-all-trac-rip
12-24-2018, 04:56 PM
I asked what size 15" is possible stock. Post 2 says that size will fit with "marginal" trimming. When I say stock, I mean zero modifications to the body. But thank you anyways, happy holidays!!!

llamavan
12-24-2018, 05:22 PM
I'm finding the above request for information very confusing, and it's obvious I'm not the only one.


Stock rims are 14" (5 bolt) on the 4WD Vans.

15" RIMS are not stock for the Vans, ever.

I believe the actual question is whether any tires on any 15" rims can be used without modification to the Van. If that is the question, the answer (based on current collective knowledge) is no ... unless you can find (and want) low-profile tires.

Gwen

95-le/sc-all-trac-rip
12-24-2018, 05:39 PM
Yes that was my question, I would prefer to not have to trim a van just to put 15" wheels and tires on it.

Burntboot
12-24-2018, 05:51 PM
Thanks for clarifying all that Gwen

And just to take it a little further:

The 205/75R14 tire has an overall diameter of 26.1in and overall width as 8.0in
The 205/70R15 is 26.3in and 8.2"
As previously stated the 15in rims have a slightly different offset and will move the tires slightly outward.

Different manufacturers tires will have slightly different measurements in overall sizing, but the charts should get you close.
You could move to a +2 upgrade (16in rims) but while you can get something in 26.1 OD the OW is 8.6in and I suspect may cause issues with fenders and sliding doors, but haven't tried it yet.

The only "grinding" I had to do was to take the squared corner off the bottom of the plastic finisher at the front of the wheel,
hardly what I would consider a "modification", perhaps a concourse judge might take issue, but most people wouldn't even notice.
The plastic was just catching on the rather square tread face of the tire (Pirelli Scorpions), a different tire may clear just fine or cranking the torsion bars 1/8in over stock height would have accomplished the same thing, but the file was faster and easier.

Happy Holidays to all

Jonny
12-27-2018, 06:34 PM
Put these two sites in your favorites. There's a lot of information, esp on tiresize.com, with visualization too, including offset. They even helped me figure things out (!), and there are several other similar resources if these don't do it for you (e.g. wheel-size.com doesn't have Van stock rim specs listed, unfortunately). These were just the ones I chose to use for reference for my Previa.

https://tiresize.com/

https://www.wheel-size.com/

Carbonized
12-30-2018, 03:44 PM
I was just looking through a mail in catalog from JEGS.com and found theses BFGoodrich by Coker tire from 205/70 to 245/60 in 14" and a bunch in 15"

Happy new year everyone!

Flecker
01-01-2019, 09:34 AM
I was just looking through a mail in catalog from JEGS.com and found theses BFGoodrich by Coker tire from 205/70 to 245/60 in 14" and a bunch in 15"

Happy new year everyone!


Link? I exhausted all leads when hunting down some 14" tires... finally settled on General Grabbers. Nice to have more options though~

:wnk:

Burntboot
01-01-2019, 01:04 PM
Coker Tire specializes in vintage tires. (cokertire.com)

Their listings for 205/75r14 show 6 options of which all are standard passenger car tires, in that there are no options for a higher speed or load rating.

On the upside you can choose between 3/4in, 1in and 2-3/8in whitewalls and they even have a set of "Redlines" too.
There is an "economy" tire available for $90 and another at $146, the rest are all close to or well above the $200 mark.

Not sure if its a viable option, but nice to know its there.
Worth checking back from time to time too, as they are always adding new production.
Haven't been to their site in years but they have WAY more selection now, than ever before.

Flecker
01-01-2019, 01:19 PM
Yah, I have been looking for a set of slicks with the whitwall option... never know when I may want to drag race my van with a ford escort or something. :dance1:

Carbonized
01-01-2019, 02:45 PM
I didn't dig into it but here is a" link" :lol: direct from the Jegs.com mail in (paper) catalog:
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Flecker
01-01-2019, 03:26 PM
They do have a stock 205/75r14... it's pretty dang rough to find a 215/75r14 tire worth a dang to put under the 4wd models though, especially one with a decent enough tread to terrorize the local backroads and snow.. Almost the ideal tire size imo. I am guessing it's why most opt for the 27" variety like Grabber's, Kenda, Maxis and so on.

bikerjosh
01-08-2019, 11:51 PM
Anyone know of a good 215/75-15 all terrain tire that will fit on the suzuki sidekick wheels and will clear the slider?
In the middle of painting my 15's and planning on using my grabber2 27x8.5r14 on my all-trac wagon build.
I am already running tacoma bil shocks, rear spacers (have a set of aerostar springs to install) and cranked torsion bars.
thanks

spacecruisers
01-09-2019, 09:09 AM
Anyone know of a good 215/75-15 all terrain tire that will fit on the suzuki sidekick wheels and will clear the slider?
In the middle of painting my 15's and planning on using my grabber2 27x8.5r14 on my all-trac wagon build.
I am already running tacoma bil shocks, rear spacers (have a set of aerostar springs to install) and cranked torsion bars.
thanks

I’ve run BFGs and grabbers on my 15” sidekick wheels and both work perfect

bikerjosh
01-09-2019, 10:47 PM
I’ve run BFGs and grabbers on my 15” sidekick wheels and both work perfect
So no issues clearing slider with 215s, cool. Do you have any issues rubbing or did you trim the underside of van?
Thanks again for the quick response.

Carbonized
01-09-2019, 11:51 PM
shapeshifter is running 225-75 M/T on Samys without apparent slider problem, and they have some deep threads high on the side wall! That's a mighty good looking beast: https://www.toyotavantech.com/forum/entry.php?362-Pictures-of-28-quot-Mud-Tires

bikerjosh
01-10-2019, 10:35 PM
shapeshifter is running 225-75 M/T on Samys without apparent slider problem, and they have some deep threads high on the side wall! That's a mighty good looking beast: https://www.toyotavantech.com/forum/entry.php?362-Pictures-of-28-quot-Mud-Tires

He has them, but has fairly substantial rubbing and is having some work done on cutting the body and capping the ends.

Carbonized
01-10-2019, 11:13 PM
Substantial or "just a little" ???:cnfsd:

bikerjosh
01-11-2019, 09:33 AM
He 'shapeshifter' should be able to comment once he gets his van back from fabricator, but sounded pretty substantial, IMO. What I mean is it sounded like enough cutting, patching, etc that most wouldn't attempt w/o some professional assistance. While it sounds like 225/75-15 didn't hit slider they did on the body. I still need to add my aerostar springs and see how much more clearance I can gain on more torsion bar crank w/o sacrificing ride. Looks like the 215/75-15 tires will essentially be .7" taller but same width than my current set up.
He also mentioned the 225 tires did seem to suck a lot of power out of the current oem motor/gear combo w/respect to hills.

On a separate subject, I am wondering if the sidewalls are much stiffer on BFG ATs versus Grabber AT2s ?
Granted the going from 14" to 15" reduces the sidewalls so I would assume that apples to apples the sidewalls would be slightly stiffer.
-Josh

Duke
01-11-2019, 09:53 AM
I have 215-75R15's on my van and I have some minor rubbing issues in the front. It is not bad enough that I have felt the need to trim anything, but it is there, especially with a passenger. The next time I buy tires, I plan on going with 235-75R15's and I am sure that I will be making some cuts for clearance.

bikerjosh
01-11-2019, 09:55 AM
I have 215-75R15's on my van and I have some minor rubbing issues in the front. It is not bad enough that I have felt the need to trim anything, but it is there, especially with a passenger. The next time I buy tires, I plan on going with 235-75R15's and I am sure that I will be making some cuts for clearance.
What brand are you running? I think when we get to this size where clearance is so tight, different brands are going to rub more than others.

Duke
01-11-2019, 04:46 PM
What brand are you running? I think when we get to this size where clearance is so tight, different brands are going to rub more than others.

Definitely. On my Datsun I have found crazy size variances! On that car I have little to no clearance (literally millimeters) and it has bit me in the ass a couple of times. I have found that tirerack.com does a good job of measuring and posting actual tire sizes. I use them as a reference for all my tire buying decisions.

On my van I am running BFG All Terrain TA2's in 215-75R15.

dzzrtrock
07-31-2019, 07:01 PM
Well I pretty much exhausted my options for what I'm looking for in a 14" tire for my 4x4 van. I pretty much wanted a good all around tire that would be rated for all season. The Michelin X I thought was my "go to" tire. It was rated at a 80,000 mile warranty and was an all season tire. The best thing was that it had the size, 205-75-R14 I was looking for! After being lead around for who knows how long by the tire guys at CostCo, it ends up now they are going to discontinue the tire. I really don't want to spend way over $500 for a set of four tires with really no warranty on them. Plus have to find someone to put them on!

So I'm wanting to see what's available by using 15" wheels. My goal on the using this size is to ultimately get the same diameter tires as the 14" above. Tires I want to use is a Michelin, BFGoodrich or Bridgestone tires on the 15" wheels. Anyone know what wheels I should be looking for that would work? ====================
27x9.50x14 BFG AllTerrain. also, Jeep CJ 5 wheels fit with just a smidgen of center hole touch up. (check out that tire size!)911991209121

Burntboot
08-08-2019, 07:20 AM
dzz - see page 1 of this very thread, for the answers you seek!

Burntboot
08-08-2019, 07:36 AM
PS - The Ford and Jeep rims that have the correct bolt pattern but the wrong offset, the Suzuki wheels are a better fit.

dzzrtrock
08-08-2019, 02:15 PM
PS - The Ford and Jeep rims that have the correct bolt pattern but the wrong offset, the Suzuki wheels are a better fit.

I read the thread. I was tossing that out on a whim. The tire size should be a good indicator. Those are museum pieces.

That having been said, however, a "wrong" offset can be a double-edged sword. For example, the jeep wheel & tire will still clear the sliding door, depending on tire width. Add a wider tire, get door clearance issues. The plus is that it is less likely to jam the tire with the load on it into the inside of the wheel well on the rear, locking up the tire with traction while allowing the unloaded tire to spin freely in a catty-corner tire traction loading situation. As soon as THAT happens, the traction problem compounds itself. It has the same overall wheel articulation effect as an axle 2 inches wider. The down side is that it does give more bump steer and slightly heavier steering when stationary. The plus to that though, is that it does give more directional stability in crosswinds because of the wider stance.

dzzrtrock
08-08-2019, 03:00 PM
All that stuff is important if you're street racing a rice-burner. But if you're using you van off the road to any degree, it'll come down to 1 thing: "which one will resist that rock that you didn't see & which will be eaten by the rock"? Steel will be the winner there. (Steel sidekick wheels with 215-70-15 tires shown)9151

I have attached a photo of the rims I have now .... just don't love the way they look .... I've just heard better than steel for stopping and not wearing the front end out because of the weight difference. It would be interesting to know what the actual weight difference is ... and whether or not it's that big of a difference.

4653

designSTUDIO
11-28-2019, 07:59 PM
Oli,


I'm about a year late, but picking up where you left off. I'm a new owner of a JDM '91 LiteAce and am desperate to ditch the OEM 14" rims as they are beat all to hell (must've been quite the curb banger back in the day!)

I've been drawing out a bunch of various sizes of wheel and tire sizes to confirm that I can fit some meatier running gear before I go all in on the litf as well.

Has anyone run anything like these American Racing aftermarket Suzuki wheels?


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00R943FXY/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_1?smid=A35BKNF7G8DU3K&psc=1


They are 15x7 with the correct lug pattern and hub bore, so that part is fine. They however have a -6mm offset which helps with the fit between wheel arch and the slider, just not sure what else to consider nor if the negative offset (20mm difference inboard from stock) is going to be a problem with brakes or suspension?


Anyone have any input on those particular rims?

I'm thinking of pairing them with 215 or 225/75R15's with 2" or so of lift (which I'm also scouring the board for actionable intel...)

Looking forward to joining the TOYOVan pack!

Mark

Carbonized
11-28-2019, 10:24 PM
Actually, designSTUDIO, a negative offset moves the outer lip of the rim outboard, (street side). check post #27 and #28 of this thread. Also there is a small difference between the US van and the JDM version. I' do not know if it is in the body work or the axle but JDMvanman could no fit the same set up (14x7 Supra) that I have on my van on his JDM Van. The rim got in the way of the sliding door.

designSTUDIO
11-29-2019, 01:56 AM
UGHHHH this is precisely why I wanted to draw everything (multiple times obviously...) before going down any one path. Based on UPDATING said drawings, it looks like I'm still on a workable path (until shock and spring mods are thrown into the mix... FUN right?)

Thanks so much for the head check. I'd been on each side of the zero point of offset about 20X today!

JDM VANMAN
12-01-2019, 02:16 AM
I' do not know if it is in the body work or the axle but JDMvanman could no fit the same set up (14x7 Supra) that I have on my van on his JDM Van. The rim got in the way of the sliding door.


Yuup, myTownAce is 2WD and not lift mods, I tried the Supra rim on with no tire on it and the slider hit the rim.... good thing I didn’t have the tires mounted!! I know the rear axle is different then USDM rear axle cause the brake shoes and wheel cylinders are completely different and smaller.

JDM

Holto
02-07-2023, 11:35 PM
Sorry folks I’m gonna ask because all this calculation is breaking my brain 🧠

I have an 88’ JDM 4wd Townace with 2” of lift over stock. I’m not against trimming a moderate amount, but I just can’t sort between the door clearance, backspacing, offset, etc…

The 15x8 of these come in a -19 and a -12 offset, but the backspacing is different and that’s where I get confused… I’m assuming there’s no way these even come close to the slider clearing them, correct? I’m not against shimming the track, but that probably couldn’t gain me enough, yes?

https://fueloffroad.com/wheel/13343/fuel%2D1%2Dpiece%2Dwheels%2Dcovert%2Dd696/?finishID=4434&lugs=6

Thanks for any help here. I’d love a little wider track and the 15” tire option, but I’m starting to wonder if it’s all worth the trouble 🤣

Thanks for any thoughts here. I’ve read the entire thread and a couple others, but the more I read the more out of whack I feel. hahahha.

dzzrtrock
02-08-2023, 08:01 PM
I have a set of Suzuki Sidekick wheels for mine. 15" ,5x5.5 bolt pattern, right center bore hole. They currently have 215-70-15 tires that roll out about the same diameter as the 27x8.50x14 BF Goodrich All Terrains that I have on the stock wheels. There are no sliding door issues. There are no fender clearance issues. Wider wheels buy you virtually nothing in stability unless you go several inches wider...each. They just serve to throw mud all over your van and rocks through other people's windshields. A taller tire will buy you a bit more road speed at the same RPM but clearance becomes an issue. And if you go too tall, it can drop you out of your power band and your mileage & performance drop off accordingly. 11938