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1991Previa
12-31-2019, 08:37 AM
Hi Previa Lovers,

Any suggestions for a wiper blade replacements for front and back of 1991 previas? I have 2 of them that do and will need replacing v. soon. As a tester, I got a an ANCO W-28R on order.

205K and 224K

jg_rodriguez1

TCR10
12-31-2019, 04:55 PM
Hello,
Ah, Previa wipers, yet another quirky feature of our beloved Previas. Last I knew, there were no aftermarket blades or inserts for the front of the 1991-1993 Previa, but that may no longer be true. I've used Toyota 28" inserts A700 (85221-YZZB3-TM) in front purchased from the dealer and aftermarket 17" blades in back.
Happy New Year.

tfreed1
01-02-2020, 07:10 AM
I have a set of ANCO W-28R but have not tried them yet. It looks like they would replace the metal stiffener with the plastic included with the new inset. Let us know if the Ancos work. Thanks.

Jonny
04-24-2020, 02:16 PM
1991Previa - please share your findings with us. These forums are so much more useful to everyone if threads have answers - even if the answer is it doesn't work.

tfreed1
04-24-2020, 03:32 PM
I installed a set of ANCO W-28R's a few months ago. They work well on my 1993. I had to use needle nose pliers to straighten some of the metal tabs that got bent over the years so that I could slide in the new blades. It looks like I can change only the rubber next time and reuse the plastic stiffeners from these blades.


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apham8
04-24-2020, 04:31 PM
Thanks for the update. Apparently, Toyota has discontinued the front wiper blade refills, part number 85221-YZZB3-TM. I have contacted several Toyota dealerships and they are backordered with no ETA. I've been told that this simply translates to the discontinuation of the item.

I am likely to try out the PIAA wiper blade refills shortly on my 1992 Previa in the not too distant future. If those do not work, I will try out the Anco you used.

tfreed1
04-24-2020, 08:43 PM
I bought these about 4 years ago but did not find them until after I put the Anco's on. Guess I'll keep them until the Previa is ready for a concourse.

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tfreed1
04-26-2020, 09:32 AM
Anco W28R's in action

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1H9YR0yQ9B85gVDVf0x9Xs0nDGlS2Evay/view?usp=drivesdk

apham8
04-26-2020, 11:06 AM
Awesome solution with a follow up video to show the results! This no doubt helps a great deal for the future of owning/driving the Previa.

I do have one concern though, it seems that these might be phasing out as well? RockAuto has 2 qty in stock! Maybe I'm just panicking? I will order mine just in case.

Update: I bought two pairs of the Anco W-28R refills off of eBay. I will try them out when they arrive. If they work out as well for me I'll likely buy two or three more pairs for the future.

apham8
05-01-2020, 04:33 PM
I just received my Anco W-28R refills and I see you said you had to bend the tabs because they got bent over the years, but I think that the Anco plastic body is just too large for the channel.

I am going to attempt to sand away the plastic to make it fit into the wiper blade channel. I prefer to modify the plastic body than to modify the wiper arm. We'll see if it'll work out. I'll update when I try in a few days.

man_btc
05-02-2020, 12:26 AM
Just some more detail, not any experience with a substitution. I purchased a few on ebay after reading this thread, and fooled with them a bit. As described, the hard backing strip in the ANCOs just doesn't fit into the tabs on the Toyota wiper arm. That means (a) bending the wiper tabs, (b)sanding/thinning the ANCO backing (maybe just the back edges?) or (c) pulling the ANCO rubber part out from their plastic backing strip and threading it through the Toyota metal one. The ANCO looks worrisome to me in terms of it being coming out from that backing strip - straight out or sliding off. The ANCO depends on some snap-in caps at the ends to keep in it in place vs the Toyota refill which has a locking shape molded into one end in addition to bent "stops" at each end of the metal backing strip.

apham8
05-03-2020, 01:44 PM
After filing down the plastic back on the Anco W-28R, they do indeed fit into the Previa's wiper arms without modifying/bending the tabs back.

I just tested the Ancos out with the windshield washer fluid and they look to work just as good as the OEM Toyota refills. I'll be buying four or five more pairs to stock up for future wiper replacements.

tfreed1
05-06-2020, 05:21 PM
I only bent a couple of the tabs when putting in the Anco blades. I think one issue is that the original Toyota metal stiffening strip is curved and the Anco plastic is straight. I had to fineness the Anco in as the tabs are aligned for the curved metal piece.

apham8
05-06-2020, 06:30 PM
Yes, I noticed this as well. It is not linear, the tabs are wider on one end and narrower on the other.

It rained today and I got to use the Ancos, they look to be a good alternative to the OEM refills. Although, I do not think it is as good. Works well though.

I was tempted to take the wiper arms and motor from a 1994 Previa at the salvage yard today. I was glad to see that the conversion is not very difficult. For those that do not know, the 1994 - 1997 Previa front wiper arms are the typical j-hook variety. But I think these Ancos will be a doable workaround for wiper blades for my 1992. I'll just stick with my original wiper arms. I've already picked up multiple Anco W-28Rs, so I should be good for couple years at least.

UPDATE: It rained today and after driving at freeway speeds with the Anco refills I have to say that they are perfectly fine and probably as good as OEM. My previous comment has more to do with my dirty windshield than the quality of the wiper blade.

Got a total of 4 spare pairs of these W-28R's. I am hoping they will last the duration of my ownership. I'm a bit concerned with the "expiration" of these unused rubber blades. So I took them inside to store them instead of storing them in the garage where there are temperature fluctuations.

Again, I do not know if they are phasing out these W-28R's? It seems to me that all the ones that are for sale are NOS (New Old Stock). I could be wrong and hoping that I am, but I don't see these available by major retailers. RockAuto has two in stock and I have a suspicion they will not be restocking them. And the ones on Amazon are mainly smaller retailers on Amazon.

valve79
08-21-2020, 02:22 PM
Has any one used this conversion kit?

https://www.amazon.com/Windshield-Wiper-Adapter-Bosch-3392390298/dp/B015YD1US8

If so did it work ?

Never mind I just read reviews and it doesnt fit one side.

So has anyone found a replacement inserts anywhere ?

Previologist
08-21-2020, 11:10 PM
Anco W28R work on 95's...I don't remember if there is a difference between them and earlier models so you may have to research that aspect...

valve79
08-29-2020, 05:41 AM
So I purchased these bad boys and they fit like a glove. It can be PIA to slide it back in use some WD-40 it will make it so much easier rather than wrestling with it. Thanks again for the tip on these inserts. Now what kind of insert do we use on the rear wiper?

Previologist
08-30-2020, 09:37 AM
Great! Looks like they will probably work for all American Previas then, if they work 91-95. Its been a long while since I replaced my rear wiper so I don't know anything certain about that. Please let us know what you find out.

apham8
08-30-2020, 10:51 AM
I've gone over to the ANCO 4808 adapter, which allows the rear wiper arm to receive a traditional J-hook wiper blade. Works great for me thus far.

valve79
08-31-2020, 08:32 AM
Great! Looks like they will probably work for all American Previas then, if they work 91-95. Its been a long while since I replaced my rear wiper so I don't know anything certain about that. Please let us know what you find out.

I have been told that this will work with minimal effort to install.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MRGB2XF/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have ordered it and will report when I install it.

Just tried to put this on and it did not work - not even close so scratch this please. If you found an alternative please let me know.

apham8
09-17-2020, 04:22 PM
I replied to a thread I made for the PIAA Super Silicone wiper refill blades. I ordered some and installed them. Tight fit with the two metal strips that are common on newer design wiper refills.

I have yet to use them extensively, but the tight fit with the metal strips in the wiper arm makes me think that they should be my go to solution from here on for wiper blades.

The reason why I switched out from the ANCO W-28R, as stated in the other thread as well, is that they ANCO would shift around while in use. Eventually fully coming out of the wiper arm.

Previologist
09-19-2020, 06:32 PM
Good to know. Thanks for reporting back on BOTH types you tried. I used the W28R's for about 3 years and don't remember having any trouble with them, but its good to have more choices.

apham8
09-19-2020, 07:13 PM
The ANCOs worked for months without issue. Then the Passenger side wiper blade, the actual rubber wiper portion, would shift within the track to the outer right side edge of the track. It would bunch up for some odd reason. That's when I had to look for another solution. It was at that point that I took a PIAA wiper blade out of a family member's vehicle and looked to see if it would fit the Previa's wiper arms. And it did. So I ordered the 28" PIAA refills.

Oddly enough, I went to the salvage yard and saw a '93 Previa with this newer type of wiper blade refill insert. Apparently, other Previa owners have already used this solution that I was curious about.

NorwalkCT
11-22-2020, 01:27 PM
First post. Just wanted to throw my 2 cents in. I managed to get a 2003-2009 Prius rear wiper arm to work. Had to slightly modify it, but well worth the hassle and cost of OEM. Costs about 15 bucks online and comes with blade. You need to trim material at hinge or it'll sit too far off the glass. I took off about 2mm.also cut the ring around the shaft hole so it would push down when tightened. Otherwise it won't seat on shaft. Also put a bit of lithium grease on the rubber so friction wouldn't shred it.

1993 Toyota Previa AllTrac.

stillgoing
02-07-2021, 01:40 PM
I replied to a thread I made for the PIAA Super Silicone wiper refill blades. I ordered some and installed them. Tight fit with the two metal strips that are common on newer design wiper refills.

I have yet to use them extensively, but the tight fit with the metal strips in the wiper arm makes me think that they should be my go to solution from here on for wiper blades.

The reason why I switched out from the ANCO W-28R, as stated in the other thread as well, is that they ANCO would shift around while in use. Eventually fully coming out of the wiper arm.

Don't know if I missed what year your Previa is and do you have a part # for the PIAA refills? I guess after 30 years nobody wants to make parts for this vehicle anymore. Had trouble finding a muffler for mine but eventually found one and the pipe in front of it. Hard to keep these running when parts aren't available. But still runs good.

TheMAN
06-05-2021, 09:15 PM
First post. Just wanted to throw my 2 cents in. I managed to get a 2003-2009 Prius rear wiper arm to work. Had to slightly modify it, but well worth the hassle and cost of OEM. Costs about 15 bucks online and comes with blade. You need to trim material at hinge or it'll sit too far off the glass. I took off about 2mm.also cut the ring around the shaft hole so it would push down when tightened. Otherwise it won't seat on shaft. Also put a bit of lithium grease on the rubber so friction wouldn't shred it.

1993 Toyota Previa AllTrac.

People in Japan get Toyota Alphard and Noah wiper blade/arms to fit onto theirs... I haven't cared enough to look up if there's any USDM cars that uses those parts though, but it seems to be a straightforward swap for them
https://cdn.snsimg.carview.co.jp/minkara/parts/000/003/064/265/3064265/p1.jpg?ct=7428d402ba65

I'm actually on the hunt for a 98-99 wiper arm, which finally used the J hook style blade attachment, rather than the stupid 80s style screws... I discovered this much too late years ago and when I wanted to buy a new arm, it was already discontinued then
[https://naruki-ya.jp/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/IMG_309-1.jpg

TheMAN
06-05-2021, 09:19 PM
If all of you 90-93 owners don't mind the work, you can consider upgrading to the 94-99 wiper arms/blades... simplified setup, and much better J hook style blade attachment... this gives you options to put in aftermarket blades if you want... as for the washer nozzles once you swap to aftermarket blades, just get nozzles off an Isuzu NPR truck, or get Wipex nozzles off ebay... the Wipex nozzles are better than the Isuzu ones anyway
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Wt6QhmOuLTo/Ujaab1WfejI/AAAAAAAACD4/25AtfjyI2p8/s1600/new%20wipers%20installed.jpg

I'm still using the stock 94-99 blades... I bought a huge stash of OEM Toyota wiper refill rubbers years ago and slowly going through them... PIAA rubbers work of course, but they're marked up and made by NWB... if I was to do it all over again, I'd buy NWB super graphite coated rubber refills from japan... they do what the PIAAs can but also last longer and less chatter because the rubber has graphite in them

https://www.toyotavantech.com/forum/showthread.php?1548-94-99-wiper-upgrade-conversion

John Kaufmann
06-07-2021, 02:30 AM
If all of you 90-93 owners don't mind the work, you can consider upgrading to the 94-99 wiper arms/blades... simplified setup, and much better J hook style blade attachment... this gives you options to put in aftermarket blades if you want...
Just to be clear we're on the same page: you mean 94-97 wiper arms/blades? (No 98-99 Previa in North America, right?)


as for the washer nozzles once you swap to aftermarket blades, just get nozzles off an Isuzu NPR truck, or get Wipex nozzles off ebay... the Wipex nozzles are better than the Isuzu ones anyway
Are you still talking about blade-mounted (in the 91-97 Previa fashion) washer nozzles? If so, aren't the nozzles specific to the blades? If not, what are you talking about?[/QUOTE]


I'm still using the stock 94-99 blades... I bought a huge stash of OEM Toyota wiper refill rubbers years ago and slowly going through them... PIAA rubbers work of course, but they're marked up and made by NWB... if I was to do it all over again, I'd buy NWB super graphite coated rubber refills from japan... they do what the PIAAs can but also last longer and less chatter because the rubber has graphite in them
These are comparable to PIAA 94070 ?

TheMAN
06-07-2021, 04:33 AM
Just to be clear we're on the same page: you mean 94-97 wiper arms/blades? (No 98-99 Previa in North America, right?)
the previa was made till end of 99, the 98-99 LHD versions sold in Europe, Middle East, and other countries still use the same wiper arms and blades, so they're not just 94-97 wiper blades, they're 94-99...


Are you still talking about blade-mounted (in the 91-97 Previa fashion) washer nozzles? If so, aren't the nozzles specific to the blades? If not, what are you talking about?
the nozzles are clipped onto the stock blades, any year (90-99)... but if you use aftermarket, there's no place for them, except gluing them on or taping them on.... that's kludgy... people in Japan figured out to use Isuzu truck wiper nozzles and drill holes on the arms to screw them on.... but getting Wipex ones off ebay is better because there's more jets and they're clip on


These are comparable to PIAA 94070 ?
NWB sells ones that are the same performance level, but they also sell ones that are better
they're sold in Japan only... easiest way to get them is off amazon japan.... buying in bulk will offset the shipping costs

Big Nate
07-20-2021, 12:09 AM
Hi Previa Lovers,

Any suggestions for a wiper blade replacements for front and back of 1991 previas? I have 2 of them that do and will need replacing v. soon. As a tester, I got a an ANCO W-28R on order.

205K and 224K

jg_rodriguez1

I’ve had my 92’ Toyota Previn LE since 1995 and this is the first year I’ve run into issues getting blade refills. After trying many different blades this YouTube video solved my problem and it’s quite easy. Here’s the YouTube link.
https://youtu.be/Tex_gr9fFpg

joyfulgirl
02-05-2022, 02:08 PM
Yass!! Thank you! About to purchase my parts!

rallycar_jepsen
05-21-2024, 12:54 PM
If all of you 90-93 owners don't mind the work, you can consider upgrading to the 94-99 wiper arms/blades... simplified setup, and much better J hook style blade attachment... this gives you options to put in aftermarket blades if you want...


When you did yours, did you at any point test fit the new arms on the original 91-93 wiper transmission? (Or has anyone else?) Do they fit?
I know you mentioned in your thread that the 91-93 transmission attachment point on the passenger side is larger and taller. Is it just a matter of a distracting extra gap and unused hole in the cowl, or is it not actually a matching fit between the two?

I'm thinking about doing the upgrade on my 91 because I'm getting a little jaded trying to track down a new source of blade inserts every few years only to find my new source is also discontinued next time I look for them ... I'd really like to have more blade options available.
I'm wondering if I can grab just the new arms themselves individually and swap them out or if I should wait until I can pick up a full assembly with arms + transmission and find a nice 94+ cowl.


edit:
Btw, for what it's worth, I also like the Prius rear arm mod and I'm thinking about trying that too. If it is true that the arms from the Alphard and/or Noah are direct fits, those part numbers appear to be 85241-58010 for the Alphard and 85241-28120 for the Noah.

Amayama says the 85241-28120 is shared between the Noah 2007-2013, Prius 2009-2015, Prius PHV 2012-2016, and Voxy 2007-2013 (https://www.amayama.com/en/part/toyota/8524128120/diagrams), while the 85241-58010 seems to be specific to the Alphard (2002-2008) (https://www.amayama.com/en/part/toyota/8524158010/diagrams).

Maybe if I do this I'll try an 85241-58010 and see if I need to modify it like the Prius one or if it's a direct fit. (Or maybe I'll get a cheaper aftermarket repro to test fitment, then grab an real one when I inevitably lose the aftermarket one to an automatic car wash.)

leety
12-04-2024, 03:39 PM
First post. Just wanted to throw my 2 cents in. I managed to get a 2003-2009 Prius rear wiper arm to work. Had to slightly modify it, but well worth the hassle and cost of OEM. Costs about 15 bucks online and comes with blade. You need to trim material at hinge or it'll sit too far off the glass. I took off about 2mm.also cut the ring around the shaft hole so it would push down when tightened. Otherwise it won't seat on shaft. Also put a bit of lithium grease on the rubber so friction wouldn't shred it.

1993 Toyota Previa AllTrac.

This is very helpful. Is that part for Prius Hatchback? Would you happen to have a part number?

Previologist
12-05-2024, 12:27 PM
This is very helpful. Is that part for Prius Hatchback? Would you happen to have a part number?

They haven't logged in since they posted that, so I think you're on your own.

leety
12-05-2024, 09:38 PM
Thank you for letting me know.

I'll post something fresh when I figure it out. Just picked up a 1991 LE for cheap with collection of issues. All the wipers are completely hosed, rear is missing completely but motor turns and sprayer, will it drips so there's hope, so I have to get creative and breath new life into all things wiper.

I will get the spaceship sorted again.

Previologist
12-05-2024, 09:41 PM
car-parts.com will get you started. Maybe there's one in a salvage yard near you

leety
12-05-2024, 10:16 PM
Ah good to know thank you!