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Mikesta
07-12-2025, 07:47 PM
The Toyota 4Y, 4YE, and 4YEC engines are all part of Toyota’s Y engine family, which is a series of inline-four, OHV (overhead valve), 8-valve engines typically used in commercial vehicles, vans, and industrial equipment (like forklifts). Here’s a breakdown of the key differences:
🔧 1. 4Y Engine

Type: Carbureted gasoline engine

Displacement: 2.2L (2237cc)

Fuel System: Carburetor

Use Case: Found in vehicles like the Toyota LiteAce, HiAce, TownAce, and forklifts

Compression Ratio: ~8.8:1 (varies slightly by market)

Power Output: ~70-90 hp depending on emissions tuning and carburetor type

⚡ 2. 4YE Engine

Type: Fuel-injected version of 4Y

Displacement: Same 2.2L (2237cc)

Fuel System: Electronic Fuel Injection (EFI)

Use Case: Vehicles with stricter emissions regulations or higher performance demands

Compression Ratio: Usually similar to 4Y, but tuned for EFI

Power Output: Slightly higher than the carbureted 4Y, better throttle response and fuel efficiency

Notable difference: The addition of EFI (Electronic Fuel Injection) makes it more reliable in varying conditions and slightly more fuel-efficient than the carbureted 4Y.
🌿 3. 4YEC Engine

Type: Fuel-injected, emissions-compliant version of the 4Y

Displacement: 2.2L (2237cc)

Fuel System: EFI with added emissions controls

“EC” Meaning: “Electronic Control” + “Catalytic” (or “Emissions Control”)

Use Case: Typically in U.S. domestic or California-emissions-compliant vehicles and industrial applications

Key Additions: Catalytic converters, EGR (exhaust gas recirculation), O2 sensors, ECU with emissions mapping

Power Output: Similar to 4YE, but may vary slightly based on emissions tuning

🔍 Summary Table

Engine
Fuel System
Emissions
Notes


4Y
Carbureted
Basic
Simple and rugged; older tech


4YE
EFI
Moderate
Better performance, EFI adds reliability


4YEC
EFI + Emissions
Strict
Emissions-compliant with ECU, O2 sensor, cat converter







🔧 Typical Applications

4Y: Older HiAce, TownAce vans, forklifts (Toyota 5-series, 6-series)

4YE: Later HiAce/TownAce vans, sometimes imported to North America

4YEC: Forklifts in the U.S., emissions-regulated industrial vehicles



Looks like they are using the same main block which can still be ordered from toyota. Can we just use the long block and add our components? Sure beats rebuilding and gets my van driving quicker.

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